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but not dictions sufficient to take the taxes up. we hope the middle class will have a tax reduction even with the elimination of deductions and putting a cap on deductions actually gives more credibility because you can give the middle class more deductions. the governor also said if you have more incomes, you pay lower caps, in other words $17,000. the idea that taxes on the well-to-do and the successful and those who are making a lot money will not go down. middle classing we hope they will stay where they are, or come down. coming down is a possibility. the important part of this tax plan, is to remember, when you earn, say you earn $200,000 and you have $20,000 worth of deductions, so now you paying tax on $180,000. if you paid tax at 35 percent rate, obviously the rate will be below $35 percent because you do not pay on full $200,000. governor romney is saying reduce that rate and every dollar you earn offer the amount that uses up the tax deductions, you will pay the lowest rate on. it will encourage people to earn more money,
but not dictions sufficient to take the taxes up. we hope the middle class will have a tax reduction even with the elimination of deductions and putting a cap on deductions actually gives more credibility because you can give the middle class more deductions. the governor also said if you have more incomes, you pay lower caps, in other words $17,000. the idea that taxes on the well-to-do and the successful and those who are making a lot money will not go down. middle classing we hope they will...
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because as liberals, we want to see the tax on work reduced, the tax on unearned wealth increased, and the system as a whole tilted in favour of those on low and middle incomes. the budget delivered all three. but let me make one thing clear, now that we have brought the top rate of tax down to 45p -- a level, let's not forget, that is still higher than throughout labour's 13 years in office -- there can be no question of reducing it further in this parliament. [applause] all future cuts in personal taxation must pass one clear test, do they help people on low and middle incomes get by and get on? it's as simple as that. at the next election, all parties will have to acknowledge the need for further belt tightening. that much is inescapable. but the key question we will all have to answer is who will have to tighten their belts the most? our position is clear. if we have to ask people to take less out or pay more in, we'll start with the richest and work our way down, not the other way around. we won't waver in our determination to deal with our debts. but we will do it in our own way,
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he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea by bowles-simpson, get the rate down to create more jobs. nothing better to create a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, paying more taxes, that's the most effective and efficient way to get the budget balanced. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic. i would say this to the american people. if you believe we can cut taxes by $5 trillion and add $2 trillion of additional spending to the military that is not asking for, $7 trillion, to give you a sense, over ten years, that's more than our entire defense budget, and you think that by closing loop
he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the...
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i think it's a good idea. >> half of property taxes go to schools to be fair. tracy, the kids issue, you can get them out of your house two years earlier. what do you make about that? >> you know what, the money issue to me is separate from the academic development issue. i don't think these kids should be rushed through school. i do think there's a reason they need these years to develop as people. when you do look at the dollars and cents, there are a lot of people that live in towns that don't even have kids in the school system. close to 50% of their taxes are going to the schools that are not spending the money properly. if you can get a kid that can take advantage of every dollar given to them, they can get through the system and take advantage, why not? >> sally cohen, at the same time taxpayers are saying why not on the other end of the spectrum, because it's not just property taxes going to schools, but also look at all the fights we've had about teac teacher pensions and teacher salaries. get more kids out of school faster, save money. >> as taxpayers
i think it's a good idea. >> half of property taxes go to schools to be fair. tracy, the kids issue, you can get them out of your house two years earlier. what do you make about that? >> you know what, the money issue to me is separate from the academic development issue. i don't think these kids should be rushed through school. i do think there's a reason they need these years to develop as people. when you do look at the dollars and cents, there are a lot of people that live in...
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why not get rid of the company's and lower taxes for everyone? >> we never give out cash measure on how and expensive. we just give conditional incentives temporary tax relief. >> you have to do it to compete. to give up politician a checkbook is dangerous do anything new want to bring jobs to the state. they could be gone when the bill comes to do. you can win without doing that the seven think you governor daniels now rated number three and the most improved state not to maine court in new hampshire or north dakota. >> we are gaining on them. >> what about housing for amtrak or the post office? ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. john: did you go to the post office website? we do. since then franklin was appointed the first postmaster the post office has grown and changed with a
why not get rid of the company's and lower taxes for everyone? >> we never give out cash measure on how and expensive. we just give conditional incentives temporary tax relief. >> you have to do it to compete. to give up politician a checkbook is dangerous do anything new want to bring jobs to the state. they could be gone when the bill comes to do. you can win without doing that the seven think you governor daniels now rated number three and the most improved state not to maine...
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tax policy but not by to buy another issues. i was not present the day they shutdown the event but many were shouting there is no debate. no-space 48. that hit home. >> he was shouted down. john: somewhere outside the building and throwing rocks through the window? >> university reacted and condemned the action. unc denounce. but some people did not want to have the debate. some think my views are so illegitimate i should not say them. john: you go to campuses around the country. most illiberal others are silenced? >> that is fair. the culture is monolithic they don't seem interested to change that. they pass policies to make it more difficult for students to have minority viewpoints to speak out. john: and professors at lean left, 51% registered democrats. but only 14% are republican. social science is only 6%. >> 70 2% self identify as liberal. which is a big disparity between them and the general public. john: you were a junior when obama was elected? >> it was light a little of the colt it happened across the nation. john: n
tax policy but not by to buy another issues. i was not present the day they shutdown the event but many were shouting there is no debate. no-space 48. that hit home. >> he was shouted down. john: somewhere outside the building and throwing rocks through the window? >> university reacted and condemned the action. unc denounce. but some people did not want to have the debate. some think my views are so illegitimate i should not say them. john: you go to campuses around the country....
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. >> locking up your own tax base is simply stupid. when the president and military in dust -- industrial complex is closed down we will be able to grow h e&s mohamed p which will save all of our assets. >> what made you decide to run for president. >> same thing that made we wanted to do a sitcom. sitting home and watching tv before i did the sitcom i thought i could do better than that. same idea. >> one of your major issues is the legalization of marijuana. is why you are here today? >> that is why i'm here. i do believe that we live in a free country and we should be free to smoke what we want and drink what we want and particularly if what we want to smoke is medication that does great things for us. >> she says weed helped her with symptoms of bipolar disorder. >> you would par take in medical marijuana at least? >> i have a prescription for medical marijuana. i'm a proud user of medical marijuana but i think that marijuana should be legalize the. marijuana in california is a billion dollars industry. and we need those taxes for
. >> locking up your own tax base is simply stupid. when the president and military in dust -- industrial complex is closed down we will be able to grow h e&s mohamed p which will save all of our assets. >> what made you decide to run for president. >> same thing that made we wanted to do a sitcom. sitting home and watching tv before i did the sitcom i thought i could do better than that. same idea. >> one of your major issues is the legalization of marijuana. is why...
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right now the $5 trillion tax cut both of them argued over is in a new ad the romney campaign put out this morning because the romney campaign feels they need to clear up what president obama is saying about it, which is that it's not true. >> how forgiving is the american voter if president obama had what he would claim is just a bad night? >> it's hard to say. what will have to happen is president obama will have to have a much better debate in new york, about a week and a half away. i've talked to a lot of democrats and big obama fans who are miserable about the president's debate performance because they think he did a bad job and might have ruined his chances. >> why do you think that was? >> you know, part of it was president obama's strategy. he wanted to come in looking presidential. david axlerod says in a conference call this week with reporters that the president didn't want the american people to see two candidates on stage insulting each other and for that reason he stayed above the fray but he needed to look for aggressive. >> stay above the fray? right after the debate,
right now the $5 trillion tax cut both of them argued over is in a new ad the romney campaign put out this morning because the romney campaign feels they need to clear up what president obama is saying about it, which is that it's not true. >> how forgiving is the american voter if president obama had what he would claim is just a bad night? >> it's hard to say. what will have to happen is president obama will have to have a much better debate in new york, about a week and a half...
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i want to cut taxes, president obama wants to raise taxes. historically that has been a devastating argument. for the president and joe biden to talk about raising taxes when you have millions and millions of americans out of work, it does not seem to work, and everyone knows the actual tax hikes will do almost nothing for the deficit. so it is just kind of catnip for the left. let's raise taxes on the rich. class warfare. i don't think it is a successful economic strategy, and i'm not sure it will or politically either. gerri: interesting days. that is for sure. you will have you back to talk more. when we come back to be searching for a deal, but prescription drugs online presents a all new sets of problems. we will explain. an age-old question resurfacing. can women have it all? are we dissing mother had? this is going to be a panel. you will love it. it will be a lot of fun. ♪ [beep] [indistinct chatter] [kids talking at once] [speaking foreign language] [heart beating] [heartbeat continues] [faint singing] [heartbeat, music playing lou
i want to cut taxes, president obama wants to raise taxes. historically that has been a devastating argument. for the president and joe biden to talk about raising taxes when you have millions and millions of americans out of work, it does not seem to work, and everyone knows the actual tax hikes will do almost nothing for the deficit. so it is just kind of catnip for the left. let's raise taxes on the rich. class warfare. i don't think it is a successful economic strategy, and i'm not sure it...
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the earned income tax credit. i doubled the earned income tax credit. it was signed under the tax credit. reagan started it. we started it with a strong support of republicans in congress. president bush dealt with that, then president obama increased the earned income tax credit for families with more than three children. this is a rejection of basically more than three decades of bipartisan policy to support working families. it's not a bunch of free loaders. there's only 4% of the total population who don't pay federal income tax and don't work and may not be looking for work. we now have the numbers on this, so, i think that most important thing for him is to find a way to relate to more people in these debates and speak to more of them. this is not the republican primary anymore. >> is he principled, do you think? mitt romney? >> that's not the issue, to me. i think he will -- i think he's principled in the sense that he will keep the commitments that he has made. almost all people when they run for president
the earned income tax credit. i doubled the earned income tax credit. it was signed under the tax credit. reagan started it. we started it with a strong support of republicans in congress. president bush dealt with that, then president obama increased the earned income tax credit for families with more than three children. this is a rejection of basically more than three decades of bipartisan policy to support working families. it's not a bunch of free loaders. there's only 4% of the total...
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i don't believe romney has proposed raising taxes on on the middle class, he is raising reckless tax cuts. that i would support. >> the answer, the argument really is who do you trust to make thebetter going forward? it seems the president is winning that argument. ashley: perhaps he has been very successful in business, could be a good option. >> exactly. the regular americans really don't start looking at this stuff until three weeks before the election. people might start paying attention. who do you trust? how can you trust barack obama going forward when it failed so miserably the past four years by joe biden's own admission. that is even if you nt to blame rusch, you have a guy in the white house who promised us he would make things better, he is made things worse, he is a failure. >> i am not one of these crazy who do not believe the evidence in front of my eyes. clearly the argument is resounding and working. but you know what, he is very good. ashley: would never have enough time. want to touch on the debate very quickly and what you think the key issues are tomorrow night i
i don't believe romney has proposed raising taxes on on the middle class, he is raising reckless tax cuts. that i would support. >> the answer, the argument really is who do you trust to make thebetter going forward? it seems the president is winning that argument. ashley: perhaps he has been very successful in business, could be a good option. >> exactly. the regular americans really don't start looking at this stuff until three weeks before the election. people might start paying...
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would you give up the mortgage tax deduction for a lower tax rate? log on to gerriwillis.com, vote on the right hand side of the screen and all share the results of the end of tonight's show. coming up later, you will not want to miss this. joins us with his preview of tonight's debate and there will be a huge windfall for the government but a hit to your pocketbook. find out how much more un nearly every other american will be paying uncle sam if we drive over the fiscal cliff in january. nearly 1 billion people around the world don't have enough food to survive. we can't let this happen. there is something we can do about it. please join christina aguilera and yum! brands in the movement to fight world hunger by supporting the united nations world food programme. for more information, go to fromhungertohope.com. your contribution will feed children and save lives. together, we can stop the dying and start the living. and together, we can move people from hunger to hope. and together, we can move people why they're always there to talk. i love you,
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payroll tax, real estate tax, gas tax, on and on and on. the president raises the rates to 5%, most businesses work on 5% or 8%. how much more can they sustain? that reduces jobs, kills us. neil: that's your point; right, dave? >> exactly. you know, there's no 5% there. our goal is 2 #.5%, neil. our goal -- >> if we're lucky. neil: goal is 2.5% -- >> in a good economy. 2.5% net in a good economy in the business we do today. add 5% there -- >> you're done. >> 2.5% in the red, that's right. neil: if you hear mitt romney saying i'm going to essentially get off your back, going to roll back regulations. he was not specific which, make sure the government cools it on taxes, didn't say to the degree of what allowances and writeoffs and deductions he limits, were you either troubled by the fact it might be a wash? that you, for example, in your case for your catering business, you might see, butch, no tax savings at all, but you might have a lower rate, but can't deduct as much. >> that will kill us. without disposable income for me to spend or gr
payroll tax, real estate tax, gas tax, on and on and on. the president raises the rates to 5%, most businesses work on 5% or 8%. how much more can they sustain? that reduces jobs, kills us. neil: that's your point; right, dave? >> exactly. you know, there's no 5% there. our goal is 2 #.5%, neil. our goal -- >> if we're lucky. neil: goal is 2.5% -- >> in a good economy. 2.5% net in a good economy in the business we do today. add 5% there -- >> you're done. >> 2.5%...
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he wants to give tax cuts to people over to -- 250. repeal the estate tax and he said he also wants to increase spending for the defense industry. so i don't -- it's right there. this is what he has been running on. he says this will spark economic revival. >> so we don't know is what the president will run on. lou: we do know. he has to run on his record. what he has done is not deliver on cutting the deficit. what he has done is create over $5 trillion in deficits. and a debt of $16 trillion in total. >> see him run his record. that is what he has done. lou: i want to understand something here. is there some way he doesn't run on his record? i'm sorry. >> for the last 20 muncie has been running and his record. lou: i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about right now. governor romney put him on his record, and that was his signature achievement. >> i promise you, what they will do, they're going to fire ever nuclear bomb they have. lou: had dirty. is that what you're saying? >> at the end of the day, the fact that the man stood on
he wants to give tax cuts to people over to -- 250. repeal the estate tax and he said he also wants to increase spending for the defense industry. so i don't -- it's right there. this is what he has been running on. he says this will spark economic revival. >> so we don't know is what the president will run on. lou: we do know. he has to run on his record. what he has done is not deliver on cutting the deficit. what he has done is create over $5 trillion in deficits. and a debt of $16...
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plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. that's another trillion dollars and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut to add to the deficit. >> now, today, the president is saying, hang on. that's not mitt romney. he says romney's changing the tune on the crucial issue of taxes to make himself sound more centrist. ali velshi is here to make sense of what we heard last night. >> right. >> the first question on the tax cut proposal. the president is saying he's flip flopping. is he proposing $5 trillion in tax cuts? >> so this is a tricky one. what mitt romney is saying is he wants to reduce taxes across the board in every category. wherever you are coming down 20%. if you don't figure out where you're going to make up the taxes from, if you take 20% less from everybody it's over 10 years a $4.9 trillion loss and overstating it a little bit but there's a study that's been done and
plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. that's another trillion dollars and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut to add to the deficit. >> now, today, the president is saying, hang on. that's not mitt romney. he says romney's changing the tune on the crucial issue of taxes to make himself...
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tax cut across the board. mitt romney never specified the deductions that he discusses and doesn't give specifications on, to say i don't have a tax cut is surreal and the president with malpractice not pushing back on that and demanding specifics. >> some of the president's supporters said he needed a cup of coffee or two after watching that. let's listen to this from the president, guys and then, john, i want your thoughts on this one. >> does anybody out there think that the big problem we had is that there was too much oversight and regulation of wall street? because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. >> did he, john, miss an opportunity to go further with the banks there? >> i mean, that was one of i think president obama's better lines in the debate because he was calling out in a limited way and halting way all of a sudden mitt romney saying that the problem with the dodd-frank was that it was a big kiss to the new york banks which is itself a surreal etch-a-sketch moment. the president
tax cut across the board. mitt romney never specified the deductions that he discusses and doesn't give specifications on, to say i don't have a tax cut is surreal and the president with malpractice not pushing back on that and demanding specifics. >> some of the president's supporters said he needed a cup of coffee or two after watching that. let's listen to this from the president, guys and then, john, i want your thoughts on this one. >> does anybody out there think that the big...
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it claimed the $150 fee is an illegal tax that require as 2/3 2/3rd vote. >>> ross stores continue to thrive. same store sales jumped 5% last month. they had sales of $800 million in the first five weeks, that is up 10% from a year ago. ross now expects it will earn 70 cents a share in the 3rd quarter. on wall street today the dow is up 80 to 13,575. the nasdaq is up 14 at 3,149. the s&p is up 10 to 1,461. >>> the uss hornet is inviting you to visit as part of the annual event. tomorrow the museum at peer three will host a display. part of a an effort to expand fleet week to the east bay. >> really going to have a lot of things going on with the sherriff's department, various agencies and the marines. it will be a happening place out here on the east bay. >> the fleet week runs through tuesday. the exhibit is scheduled to be on display through the weekend. >>> the blue angels roared over san francisco this afternoon. they practiced ovthe water give -- over the water giving spectators a preview. it it is scheduled for saturday and sunday. >>> the only thing is, if the clouds are too lo
it claimed the $150 fee is an illegal tax that require as 2/3 2/3rd vote. >>> ross stores continue to thrive. same store sales jumped 5% last month. they had sales of $800 million in the first five weeks, that is up 10% from a year ago. ross now expects it will earn 70 cents a share in the 3rd quarter. on wall street today the dow is up 80 to 13,575. the nasdaq is up 14 at 3,149. the s&p is up 10 to 1,461. >>> the uss hornet is inviting you to visit as part of the annual...
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the cut in tax rates? >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans tax rate business 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> unless you take away the deductions. >> we're going to get to that in a second. the first half lowering the tax rates does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. look, i won't get into baseline argument with you because that's what a lot of this is about. lowering tax rates broadening the tax base works and you can -- >> but i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> that was paul ryan on fox news yesterday making the case against math or for time or some combination thereof. these are the moments where i think the romney team has trouble, once you can actually drill down and say, but how does it work? show me the numbers. there is no answer. >> right. paul ryan thinks he can use this kind of policy wonk construction that he's been able to create to evade policy discussions. h
the cut in tax rates? >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans tax rate business 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> unless you take away the deductions. >> we're going to get to that in a second. the first half lowering the tax rates does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. look, i won't get into baseline argument with you because that's what a lot of this is about. lowering tax rates broadening the tax base works and you can --...
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did the vice president give critics an opening when he talked about a tax hike. let's listen. >> you know the phrase they always use? obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. guess what? yes, we do, in one regard. we want to let that $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all the money going to the super-wealthy. >> does the vice president's style create a risk for the democratic ticket? >> he does. you know, it's something that they've been watching with joe biden for years, but joe biden has been preparing for an entire week. by thursday when the debate happens, he will have spent almost a week at his home in wilmington preparing. and when he is prepared, he is much better in that he doesn't make those same gaffes. when he nose what it is that he needs to say and he's not going off the cuff in this style, he does better. >> on thursday, joe biden went aggressively after governor romney on taxes. let's take a look at that. >> you just never know what game or what position governor romney's going to com
did the vice president give critics an opening when he talked about a tax hike. let's listen. >> you know the phrase they always use? obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. guess what? yes, we do, in one regard. we want to let that $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all the money going to the super-wealthy. >> does the vice president's style create a risk for the democratic ticket? >> he does. you know, it's...
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i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just about everyone, from right to left, says that romney won the debate. i gave you a full "a" and i give the president a "c" minus. there was a giant difference between their performance. everyone who was fair was impressed with how romney handled that from going to end. obama was stunned by how well romney was performing. he seemed almost to take a step back and tune out. >>neil: do you think he came in to it is on the clock, the president, to your point he didn't expect this, and he saw little risk in taking on mitt romney and even if romney did well it would not move the
i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just...
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they had the exchange on taxes for the first 20-25 minutes and romney did well. i think it was still in question who was really going to win the debate and then jim lehrer said let's turn to the second session on the debt. the first thing he said was the issue of the debt and deficit is not just an issue of money it is an issue of morality. immoral to leave the debt to our children and grandchildren and i thought it was a strong statement and elevated the romney campaign above a kind of we can do a little better for your pocketbook next week than president obama can and put it in a bigger concept and elevated the race into who is the more are responsible steward of this country's finances and well being for the next generation. i thought it was a very important moment for mitt romney. >> geraldo: stand but youle join our all-star panel in a moment. first, news on fast and furious, folks. the botched atf gun running operation and news that hasn't been fully digested by the mainstream media. we know that one of the walked guns was used to kill agent brian terry but
they had the exchange on taxes for the first 20-25 minutes and romney did well. i think it was still in question who was really going to win the debate and then jim lehrer said let's turn to the second session on the debt. the first thing he said was the issue of the debt and deficit is not just an issue of money it is an issue of morality. immoral to leave the debt to our children and grandchildren and i thought it was a strong statement and elevated the romney campaign above a kind of we can...
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i will not raise tax on middle income families. i'll lower taxes on middle income families. martha: by our count president obama mentioned the middle class 19 times, clearly a focus of every presidential election. let's talk about this. lanny davis joins me now. and jonah goldberg is the editor at large for the national review. welcome, jonah. lanny, you listened to all that. what do you think? >> i'm not very happy with the president's performance. i think he did poorly. i agree with him on substance. i think he got the better of the exchange regarding the facts and the policy. but for the obama campaign to put the spokesman on and i'm sure she is doing her best and not to admit he had a bad night and to say we ought to do fact check when the fact checkers have rated obama's ads with four pinocchios. the way to do this is to say look at governor romney. smile, be gracious. don't look down and take notes while a man is talking to you. it's as simple as admitting he had a bad night. but on policy and substance i'm still voting for him. i know she doesn't believe she was sayin
i will not raise tax on middle income families. i'll lower taxes on middle income families. martha: by our count president obama mentioned the middle class 19 times, clearly a focus of every presidential election. let's talk about this. lanny davis joins me now. and jonah goldberg is the editor at large for the national review. welcome, jonah. lanny, you listened to all that. what do you think? >> i'm not very happy with the president's performance. i think he did poorly. i agree with him...
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he was right in saying 47% don't pay income taxes. you talk about lifting those people up so they can make it in america. that's what they want. they want to become taxpayers, and that's where he was totally wrong and tonal deaf. that's why i said that night, they're not victims. >> but his response right now is saying he was completely wrong, which is different than what he said earlier, saying he stated it ineloquently. >> i think what he was saying is he was completely wrong in speaking pejoratively of the 47%, and he was wrong to do that. he is wrong about the basic economics of our country. but we have gotten to a point where the country is paying no income taxes and taking advantage of the role of government. does that mean too high, too low? that's a good argument to get into. >> i'm utterly confused right now. >> you're only confused because he's trying to explain the comment from mitt romney, and now ari is trying to explain the new comment from mitt romney where he was very clear in saying he was wrong. ari, there is no need
he was right in saying 47% don't pay income taxes. you talk about lifting those people up so they can make it in america. that's what they want. they want to become taxpayers, and that's where he was totally wrong and tonal deaf. that's why i said that night, they're not victims. >> but his response right now is saying he was completely wrong, which is different than what he said earlier, saying he stated it ineloquently. >> i think what he was saying is he was completely wrong in...
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basic tax policy, et cetera. mr. romney also plans to point out that the president has been saying, you know, well, some parts of the economy are doing okay and that the recovery is underway. here is mitt rom know camera one of those ads where he speaks directly to the people, no big music and pictures of others that sort of apple pie and motherhood stuff. this is mitt romney saying what he thinks. >> too many americans today are struggling, living paycheck to paycheck. more americans live in poverty than when president obama took office. >> and the follow-up to that the next line in the ad and the next line in the debates will be that the country simply cannot afford another four years. and this contrast that mr. romney is putting forth about what he refers to as the obama agenda's dependency society one which big government and debt continues to grow and people lose their liberty and opportunity as entrepreneurs and business people to make their own prosperity versus what is he promising less government, less debt
basic tax policy, et cetera. mr. romney also plans to point out that the president has been saying, you know, well, some parts of the economy are doing okay and that the recovery is underway. here is mitt rom know camera one of those ads where he speaks directly to the people, no big music and pictures of others that sort of apple pie and motherhood stuff. this is mitt romney saying what he thinks. >> too many americans today are struggling, living paycheck to paycheck. more americans...
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on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people burks it's just not the case. look, i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true. >> health care, romney was on offense, touting what he passed in massachusetts as an example of a bipartisan compromise and a model for the whole country at the state level. >> we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. entirely on a partisan basis instead of bringing america together and having a discussion at this important topic, you pushed through something that you and nancy pelosi and harry reid thought something was the best answer and drove it thr
on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people burks it's just not the case. look, i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true. >> health care, romney was on offense, touting what...
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a tax cut that ads to the deficit. that is part one. there is no economist that can say mitt romney tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high overincome individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it is math. >>trace: which candidate had the upper hand and how much was accurate? with me is the associate editor of the financial weekly owned by the parent of this company. michael, romney says if you lower the tax rates what happens is, businesses have more money. businesses have more money they can hire more people and, guess what, everyone starts paying taxes and that is how you close the deficit. true? >>guest: it is true that is what he is saying. it is true that is the way a model would have it play out. the question and what assumptions go in that assertion by lowering rate and obviously on
a tax cut that ads to the deficit. that is part one. there is no economist that can say mitt romney tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high overincome individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it is math. >>trace: which candidate had the upper hand and...
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we don't want to tax more people with bad tax policy. we want to grow the middle class and get people back to work with higher take home fay. the secret to this is economic growth, chris. the premise of the conversations and tax reform point is as if the economic pie is fixed and that it is governments if job to redistribute the slices. is not how the world works. we want to grow the pie and we want economic opportunity. we want people to be able to get a better job and have more income security and higher take home pay and you can do that through economic growth and that is what we are trying to provide and what we can get if we put the progrowth policies in place. >> chris: a number of top republicans say that when romney picked you as his runng mate a little over a month ago that they thought that this indicated that you guys were going to run a bold reform agenda campaign and now expressing some frustration that instead of you changing romney you heard this that they feel that romney is changing you and you are running a much more ca
we don't want to tax more people with bad tax policy. we want to grow the middle class and get people back to work with higher take home fay. the secret to this is economic growth, chris. the premise of the conversations and tax reform point is as if the economic pie is fixed and that it is governments if job to redistribute the slices. is not how the world works. we want to grow the pie and we want economic opportunity. we want people to be able to get a better job and have more income...
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when people are moving to the tax roles rather than welfare roles you can reduce tax rates, or welfare spending and bring it back faster. >>neil: it is about inspiring confidence. ronald reagan did that, bill clinton did it. but this idea that we can't do it and certainly when pundits say further candidate should even touch it tomorrow night, that gets to the core of the problem. >>guest: that is exactly correct. this is the issue. all the issues that we are talking about in the economy are encompassed inside the national debt argument. you can get rid of the unfunded liabilities, as well, just the way we did with social security under ronald reagan by tending the age of retirement, by reducing benefits, by subjecting half of them to the income tax. there are lots of things you can do to bring this economy back and fairly quickly in two terms you could bring it back the way reagan did. >>neil: the fact is you cannot buy your way out it. you have to boom your way out of it. thank you, art. >> in washington, dc, talk of a plan to keep the government from going off an immediate fiscal cli
when people are moving to the tax roles rather than welfare roles you can reduce tax rates, or welfare spending and bring it back faster. >>neil: it is about inspiring confidence. ronald reagan did that, bill clinton did it. but this idea that we can't do it and certainly when pundits say further candidate should even touch it tomorrow night, that gets to the core of the problem. >>guest: that is exactly correct. this is the issue. all the issues that we are talking about in the...